Methane Biodigester – How To

transcription of “Methane Biodigester – How To” video..by The Urban Farming Guys..

Today, we’re gonna bring you into the world of bio-gas digestion. The whole idea is to create methane, just like you do in your stomach; as you’re churning up your food, one of the bi-products is methane. Here, we’re gonna show you today four different ways. You can go as simple or as high tech as you wanna go with this. Here’s one real simple method right here where you take two cylinders.. & as you put food waste & your manure & everything else in there, as it churns up, the methane bubbles to the top & forces that upper cylinder up, which is good for several purposes. It holds the methane, it pressurizes the methane so you can send it back to your utilities or whatever you’re gonna use it for.

So, you put in your rotten vegetables, & your manure, & whatever you got ground up you put it in here. This isn’t built yet, but you’ll get the idea. & it goes down to the bottom, & as methane builds up under this chamber, it raises up slowly like this, til it would eventually fall off. So, you build a cage to keep it from falling off, & then as you use it, as you turn your cook stove on or your generator, this thing goes back down by itself. This is kind of a proof of concept. Right here, we’re gonna do the same thing, with a much bigger scale. We got these old fuel tanks on a farm, had them welded together, made one a lot bigger..They just happened to just fit inside each other.

So, here’s another concept. Here’s a whole other way..The whole idea is to have a sealed chamber that seals off the oxygen. This is what we’ve done right here with these three tanks. This tank right here, you put the food scraps in here. This thing grinds them up & sends it down this pipe & the food just rots. It’s sealed. The whole idea is to starve the rotting stuff of oxygen. It’s anaerobic composting. Now, I’ll get into the science of that later. So, after we cut the top off of our trash can, what you have is a free hula hoop or a jump rope..Gotta get good at it first..

Here’s the top of our trash can. We’re gonna use the uniseals again. We drilled the hole here, got our uniseal here, pop it through. There may be a better way to tap into here, but I had a uniseal so I’m just gonna use it. They’re not too expensive. Pop our PVC right through that hole & that will cause it to seal when it expands.

We’re gonna take these rotten apples & rotten vegetables & turn them into methane by grinding them up in this methane digester & letting them rot. First, we’re gonna turn on the water here, plug it in; later, we’re gonna put a switch on it. Whew! Nasty! This is a 3/4 horsepower insinkerator. Take a look down here, as I’m grinding. So, I just ground up a whole box of apples in like 30 seconds to a minute, straight applesauce. The great thing about using rotten vegetables is you get there before it’s halfway digested. A lot of people use methane digesters; they’ll throw cow dung in there, which is good. But, that stuff is halfway already used; the cow’s already used it. One time, they hooked up a balloon to one of these cows. That cow, in one day, filled up a balloon full of methane the size of a cow. So, if your stuff is halfway digested, half the methane is gone already. If it’s fresh. Nothing produces methane like anything with sugar in it..cantaloupes, apples produces way more methane than just grass would. So, what you should do, you should go out to some of the local restaurants, you know the ones right down the street, & see if you can make a deal with them to get their leftover food waste to put in your biodigester. It’s way better than just using cow dung or chicken waste. There’s way more of it. We just picked up 800 pounds of food waste. You know, if it was good, we’d feet it to the chickens, but it’s super rotten stuff. We’re just tossing it in here, grinding it up, It’ll produce methane for 7-8 weeks. It’ll produce a lot of methane within two weeks. Within one week, it’s producing a lot of methane; the second week,a lot of methane, then it just keeps going for 7-8 weeks. By the time it’s fully digested, it almost comes out like a clear liquid.

This is our biodigester blueprint. These are our three IBC totes: one, two, three. I wanted to build something that’ll take a hundred pounds of food scraps a day, move it on through. Then, the stuff that’s been in there for a few days, will come off the top, go back into the bottom, swirl around. The stuff that’s been in here for a couple more weeks, will come off the top. Then, by the time it gets digested to the end, it’s almost fully eaten up & turned into a nice, clear liquid almost, that we can use for fertilizer.

Last thing we’re gonna do is install our overflow valve. We’re gonna put a hole right here & put this uniseal in right there. Shove this into the tank, & then we can come in & pull off about 100 gallons of fertilizer whenever we want it. We’re gonna pull off all these burrows & make that real clean. Use a really sharp hole saw if you can. I still haven’t had any problems though with my dull ones. It fits in there like that. Take this, fit it right in here. It’s not easy. So, we don’t want this thing flexing, so we’re gonna put zip ties on this side, zip ties to this side so it’s firm. We’ve already secured this side so we’ll go that way. Right now, it still goes that way. You gotta have zip ties; I use zip ties all the time. Put your uniseal in; slides in just like that. Save you $50..a 3-inch bulk-head fitting sometime you can spend anywhere from $30-75 bucks. This is $5. Then, push this right through the uniseal, like so. & you’ll wanna turn this in. That’ll give you an air-tight seal. & it just sits right on the bottom. We’ll add a funnel on top of this so you can pour the food waste right in.

Alright, wiring up our disposal here..

Here we are, going solar. We’re painting it black, to soak up as much of the sun’s heat during the day to keep that reaction going & simultaneously heat the greenhouse during the winter time. In the summertime, we’re gonna hate it..probably have to cover it with a white sheet or something..

Off the back of these tanks here, we’ve got the methane gas manifold. The manifold comes up out of the top of the tank, runs down, collects methane off all three tanks here–Boom, boom, boom. We’ve dry-fitted this right now & marked a line so that when we go to PVC, it’ll be easy.

Alright, now we’re gonna get into the science of this thing. What we found out on accident, I guess nobody told us or we didn’t read the last few lines—You can’t just throw a bunch of rotten vegetables & rotten stuff & manure or whatever.. you can’t just throw it into a chamber & expect it to just automatically create methane. You got several different variables & it’s really easy to maintain; you just gotta know some of the science. We don’t wanna make it super difficult. But, the whole idea is you got two different kinds of bacteria..One bacteria that eats your food & creates acid; the other that eats the acid & creates methane, a methanogenic bacteria. Then, you got two different kinds of food..You’ve got low-energy food, like what cows eat–grass; then, you got high-energy food like grain & at the highest levels, you got sugar. What happens is if you put too much high-energy food in your chamber at once, if you feed the system too much, you’ll end up getting too much acid-producing bacteria or too much acid. The acid bacteria will go crazy, produce a bunch of acid & that acid is great, it’s what the method-producing bacteria eat to create methane..The problem is that it shoots the pH so low…you know, once you get past 6, you’re done. Your methane bacterias start to die off; you gotta start over & build back up that methane population.

So, the question is, how do you start a methane digester? What’s the best way? The best way is to start it with cow manure. Now, not chicken manure; chicken manure has way too much high-energy grain, stuff that hasn’t even been digested that just goes right through the chicken’s body. But, the cow, they’ve been eating grass & it’s less likely to produce a spike in acid.

Right here, we’ve got a bunch of cow manure…A few hundred pounds of poop, stink, Mcnasty…that needs to be moved out of the truck & go way over there.. Can it be done? We believe that you are a part of the solution. We just soaked it up, filled it full of water. The whole idea is to start the process with this right here. Then, you add 5% or whatever you can feed your deal a day..you know, 5% of food scraps. & then, one thing you know, cows already have that methane-producing bacteria in them. You don’t have to find it, or wait on it or wait 3 months. One of the fastest ways to start your biodigester is to start with cow manure, horse manure. & then, you’ll be producing methane in no time cuz all you do is just add a little bit of whatever. If you wanna get going real quick, add some sugar. If you wanna be real simple, just get into a routine, get a solid stock going, add the same amount every day or get some pre-rotting stuff going..to where, you know, if you get a bunch of stuff rotting, you can pull off the same amount every day. You may not get the same amount every day; you may get a bunch at once, have it pre-rotting, producing a bunch of acid. Then, take that & add it to your digester. There’s ways to automate this to where you’re not like getting poop all over your hands, getting nasty..There’s ways to do this..

So, that’s it for our intro on bio-gas digestion. We’re gonna have another video in the future where we pipe this methane gas into a water heater, to heat the greenhouse, to heat the fish water. We’re also gonna pipe it into the house & use it on the gas stove. This here is the effluent off the digester. We’re gonna send it up to the University of MO & see what it’s good for. It’s supposed to be the process of digestion has cooked off any harmful bacteria; no chance of E. coli. But, we’re gonna make sure. We’re gonna get back with you on the results; tell you how fertile this stuff is. You know, if you have to dilute it, what’s it’s good for. & yeah, that’s it for this intro. The next one will be a lot more dynamic..

Okay, we’ve added some rubber bands around this Elmo, just to make sure she’s pressurized. Yeah, buddy!

  • Lloyd

    This is awesome! Inspiring work! I heard about ya’ll through a non-profit called Planting Justice here in Berkeley, CA. Are you guys aware of the Factor-e Farm located outside of Kansas City? They are working on set of tools called the Global Village Construction Set for building resilient communities. I think that there is some overlap in ya’ll’s work, and if you haven’t gotten in touch with them already I think it might be a good opportunity for cross-pollination. Good luck to you all!

  • Fran

    Do you have plans for the methane biodigester?

  • jacobgatschet

    very cool, I am anxiously awaiting the next video.

  • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Frontier-Family-Farm/272436965639 elkrivermr

    Very nice, hope the new video goes over how much to fill it at first and routine maintenance and handling ph issues.

    • admin

      yes we will be diving into ph issues. The main thing is to keep it in the neutral range of 7.0 + or – .5 Once in a daily feeding routine this should not be an issue. But if it dives low you can add some lime water to bring it back up. Of course the idea is to not have to do that. More to come

      • joe

        I wonder if adding limestone or egg shells wouldn’t help offset the PH a bit. Though I suppose it could also hurt the acid making process. But that’s what i use in aquaponics to keep the ph up

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  • Johnathan Steil

    I noticed in the video you said you are going to be using it for heating the green house during the winder. How warm do you think your greenhouse will get? I’ve been attending KCCUA and my homestead is number 38 on this years tour. I have chickens, turkeys, and an aquaponics setup in my greenhouse. Would be nice to heat the chicken coop and green house this winter.

    • Jason Fields

      The greenhouse never dropped below 48 and usually stayed about 65 all winter. The trick is that we have 4000 gallons of water inside the little greenhouse. The water acting as a heat sink during the day hours and slowly relasing that energy all night. and the plastic on the greenhouse is double layer inflated for an extra 10 degrees of heat savings. thanks for asking

  • Diego Madero

    Hey i noticed u use a lot of uniseals, if u put water on the pipe and the seal before u put it in it’ll slide way easier, or at least it does on glass pipes…
    great website! thanks so much for doing it!

  • Jaakko Suorsa

    I like the way he looks at the camera. You know he’s serious about his words. You can see, when one is trying to convince another without a real proof… Like a commercial or a salesman. This man has golden heart filled with truth and honesty. That means love, to me. I’ll be watching and sucking information from these guys, this is great!

  • http://Sustainable-America.com Thomas John Fisher

    Hi, Great project. Looking forward to the second one on this. I’d like to help promote want you’re doing on my site. Contact me for more information if you’d like to be featured.

    Tom

  • Ben Anderson

    Is It legal to pump your own methane into a water heater or stove. Have you guys had any problems with code enforcement? In most places you are not even allowed to hook up your own gas systems,even with a home owners permit.

  • Mike

    Good day could you forward me the plans of the digester. Regards Mike. go4gas@live.co.za

  • Tomas

    What kind of fish do you have? Do thay grow in betwin 45 – 65 or just survive? I thing that this range (45 – 65) is good maybe for trout. But something like tilapia want grows. Do you change fish with season?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SUX6GIKVIMVXDNDY7ZTVN6DYPM Jason Ratz

      Tomas, I’m by no means a pro, but what I’ve read is you typically want a fish native to your area. I personally live in South Florida (USDA zone 10). My choices would be Talapia, Striped/Hybrid Bass, and Channel Catfish. These are all types tolerant to high temps. Talapia however are very popular due to there level of care being less than some others. Example Bass eat to growth ratio is 3:1. Where as Talapia is 1:1. Meaning Bass have to eat three times the amount of food as Talapia to grow the same size. Also Talapia breed very easily. Meaning you could sustain broods of hundreds of fish from just a few breeding fish. Also depending on your setup you could keep several different types. Good luck.

  • SLarson

    Was wondering what you do with any buildup of solids stuff at the bottom of your tanks – like any solid “Digestate” – as I *think* it’s called, at least according to Wikipedia at “en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digestate”. Anyway thanks for all your encouragement and love of Life.

  • http://none marc torrades

    Hi, great project, i am looking forward to see the next one.

    I have myself bought 4 plastic tank, i am going to try with seaweed, i live beside the sea and there is a amount of seaweed growing which are easy to collect at low tide.
    i would like to do the same as your biodigester, to connect them one after the other .
    What is was wondering was: what is the height of the connection of the pipe of the second tank , because we don’t see it very well on the video.
    Keep the good work, i will try to send you some images.
    Good luck
    Marc

  • http://twitter.com/smileabhi ABHINAY BHATNAGAR

    great , i am also work on same project but due to temperature variation from 0 to 45 in my area is the bigger barrier in this project. so please share me if you have any solution..
    abhinay.bhatnagar@yahoo.com 

  • Heather McKinnon

    I helped build a biodigestor in Nicaragua. I have been dreaming about building one here in Utah but have been worried that it will be too cold here to be successful. In Nicarauga we used a large and long plastic bag put in a 1meter x 1 meter hole in the ground  with an in and out and gas tube. I see that you have a bit of a different model and I wondered how it was working and if you new anything about using it during winters we have here in North America. Thanks for putting up this video. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/remi.buenaventura Remi Buenaventura

    I got lost what the gas tanks at the beginning of the video were for… Is the methane just piped in to those?

  • NewStreams Aquaponics

    Any updates on the biodigester and gas production?  I am looking to build one soon and like your setup.  Thanks for all you guys are doing, I worked in the inner-city of Austin for over 15 years and am familiar with the challenges you guys face as well as the opportunity that is there for seeing peoples lives transform.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=620758917 Von Tomasini

      any new updates?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1175715781 Gene Raiti

    Looked at doing a digester in Boone County MO and was told by county that private systems weren’t allowed in most of MO.  Are they right or just being a pain?

  • Luke Swanson

    I’m working here in Bangladesh and am looking for ready-to-go biodigester systems that could be used on a small scale. I’ve heard that there were systems out there that were a kit that had an attached tank that harvested the methane which could be used for a cook stove or similar use. Anybody know about things like this?

  • Tim Osborn

    How is the biogas digester working? Are you getting anything usable from it?

  • Jessica

    Have you considered using/adding glycerine to your digestors? I work with a biodiesel production lab at KU. We produce the glycerine as a byproduct of our process.